It’s funny that you guys are focusing on Discrimination. What you should really be focusing on is Devision in the Linux community. I almost feel sorry for the PCLinuxOS community because of the Trolls that they have been infected with. When I say almost it’s because Texstar and others are doing nothing about it. What is happening is people such as newmikey, johncoom / coomjohn, and others have infiltrated PCLinuxOS forums and IRC chat and this is the result. (the video content that shows the result that this blog post refers to has been removed do to FUD attacks) http://tinyurl.com/3af2qj
Editor’s Note: I redacted a phone number out of respect for the individual’s privacy.Â
A man called me this morning 01/31/08 because he thought I was Lee and posted the video. He started making accusations against me. He called from [Redacted for privacy purposes: Let this also be a lesson to anyone who wants to call for the sole purpose of screaming at somebody…… they call it caller ID for a reason] and asked for me by name. He then proceeded to act like he was a person with high authority acting on behalf of PCLinuxOS which he later told me was not the case. I’m not going to release the information in the phone call yet because my PR team is working on peacing all of this evidence together to form another story. Although I would like to thank all of the trolls that have contributed to the evidence so far. I encourage you to please keep sending your submissions and harassment so we can document it and use it to further solve this mystery. I e-mailed Lee and let him know about this man. That is probably why he removed his video.
I can’t say that I see the discrimination being targeted directly towards the disabled since I can’t see the discriminating Posts on the video but I do recognize those user names. It’s not really all about PCLinuxOS. These Trolls are trying to infiltrate everywhere and break us up. They are looking for any little thing and trying to magnify it by either taking it out of context or blowing it up out of proportion or by trying to get statements out of people like my by saying mean and hurtful remarks that are just ludicrous.
These Trolls belong to cults and I have evidence that supports it. A man who calls himself Ahron Darnell has several links on the internet in an internet search. He E-mailed me personally trying to get me to stop believing in religion after I blocked newmikey, Jan, and other’s discriminating and negative remarks on my forum. What I found was that he is part of a cult that is against Morals and Religion. (Ahron Darnell lives in Lexington, KY 40509 and is part of a Ubuntu LoCo. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KentuckyTeam)
The Federation of the Tollerant and Moral Free.
Ahron also sent me the following links to try to make me doubt my religion and get rid of my faith:
http://web.mac.com/bice1/bice/Bice_Blog/Bice_Blog.html
http://www.rationalresponders.com/
Then he sent me an e-mail saying that he was for Morals? If you ever asked yourself how Hitler got the Germans to go along with his plans read the book “The Wave“. It’s a true story about how a History teacher got his High School students to transform into Mindless Followers without even trying. It got so bad that the entire town, and the school stepped in and asked the History Teacher how he was going to turn it around. It’s very easy to start a revolution driven by fear.
Now I don’t want to be racist against any Linux distributions but I want to state some facts. These Ubuntu LoCos are very exclusive to anyone thinking that any other distro could be as good and Ubuntu. They Discriminate against any other distro. They believe they will become the supreme Linux Distro and wipe out all others. All of their followers may not know this or believe it but most of them do. I know this because of e-mails I have received from them. I already stated this in another blog post.
PCLinuxOS and some other distros are headed in the same direction. I don’t believe that this spirit is being driven by people that started the projects but rather by these cults or representatives from these cults. It may even be funded by Microsoft.
New evidence suggests that PCLinuxOS is based off of mandriva but that they are still guilty of doing the same things that they accused me of. I will confirm all the data before posting a response to this.
So are you for or against exclusion, devision, and discrimination or do you want to keep feeding the trolls.
Yesterday one of these anonymous trolls found that I was against SUSE, Xandros, and Linspire because they sold out to Microsoft. They tried to lead me on by saying that they agreed that SUSE, Xandros, and Linspire were evil and they added that I should be against any distro that was being maid outside the USA just to try to lead me into a trap. I’ve still been getting these posts in my forums. I immediately delete them and some times post a response.
So you see it’s not me Discriminating against anyone. It’s just a band if Internet Trolls banding together to divide and destroy the Linux community. Don’t feed the trolls or they will bite off your hand.
Now part of freedom of Religion and freedom of speech is the right to stand up for what we believe. If I’m a Christian and I believe that Christianity is the only way to Heaven as all true Christians believe then I’m entitled to that belief. I don’t come out and say to a person “You are going to Hell” or “You are damed” and I can’t do that because that’s also a part of Christianity. Only God can say who is damed and who is not. I know what the criteria is for going to Heaven and Hell but only God knows for sure who is and isn’t. The thief on the cross that died next to Jesus went to heaven in his last hour because of his faith. Also I may not believe that being Gay, Bi, or Lesbian is not right but I’m not going to condemn anyone for being that way. Also you seem to think that Christians Discriminate people. Watch This and This and then you tell me that Christians Discriminate.
If you want a real life example when I was in High School there was a Gay kid that everyone knew. He was very exclusive and didn’t want to be friends with me. I kept my distance from him and didn’t say hurtful remarks or racist remarks to him. One day he tried to privoke a fight by saying that my mother was on Crack when I was born. So I replied and said that his Mom was watching too much Martha Stewart while he was born. All I was doing was standing up for myself. The teacher didn’t even seem to care because of how stupid the other kid was for trying to start something when there was peace.
I will tolerate any Race and try to learn as much about them as I can. Now I’m not racist. I will talk to anyone who is willing to listen or talk back. 🙂 Peace man.
Now I think I’ve been as open and honest as you could ask so LAY OFF!
A few things…
I’ll have to go over some pointers for word usage, etc…. Much improvement has been made over the last several months.
Next, I’ll need to give you information about the categories that I create for tagging purposes…. as soon as I get some sleep.
Finally, while you brought up valid points, some of what you said is quite harsh. Technically speaking, religions by definition are cults. I know the word has a very negative connotation, but there are positive ones, and negative ones. Either way, what you said about the individual was very, very harsh, and may have been completely unnecessary. I’ll leave this post up, but beware. Some of the phrases you wrote makes excellent flamebaiting material. Others may call it fighting words.
Ya I know that those could be considered fighting words but at this point it does not matter. This guy has picked a fight with me and I’m taking off the gloves. I am not holding back the truth. As Christians we define a any positive religion as a religion. If it’s an evil religion or purpose we call it a cult.
If your only for chaos and devision you don’t deserve to have your beliefs described as a religion. Your a terrorist and thats it. I would go so far as to call this guy and his followers a terrorist because they try to put fear into people and make them join in their cause. That is using Terror like a terrorist would to get what you want.
Ask.com dictionary “noun
1.
1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5.
1. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
2. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest. ”
http://www.ask.com/reference/dictionary/ahdict/4933/cult
In that sense the destructive things that this guy and his group are doing can be labeled as a cult.
To tell you the truth I think that with a lot of research we could write a book on this group and even make a movie. There is a lot going on here that we don’t fully grasp. I would go so far as to say that this underground group, cult, movement or whatever is responsible for the negative attitude of the Ubuntu LoCo community and the PCLinuxOS community. This is why Linux wont succeed if people keep getting absorbed by this group. Thats exactly what they want to happen with Ultumix. They can’t stand to see us work together united in this way. atheists, Christians, Agnostics, all working together for the common good of liberation and freedom of the Linux Community.
Thomas they want to divide us. They have done it to others. First they “troll you in”, then they divide you and scatter you, then they absorb you. It may not sound popular and we may not have enough evidence to prove this yet but we need to go after this and see it threw so that if we can indeed prove it then we will make it known to linux.com, lxer.com and other sites. They will try to destroy your credibility. They have destroyed my credibility with some sites. I don’t care really. What have I to loose. Many of the people that are being excluded by PCLinuxOS are coming over to my forum for help.
Take Lee for example. Here is a guy who is disabled and has had a very hard life. Then PCLinuxOS treats him like ****. That only makes his problem that much worse. Taking advantage of his illness is not the thing to do.
If we don’t fight back soon there won’t be a Linux community of good people to save. They will all be under a dictatorship and they may even overrule us all. The terrorism is scary here. I really suggest you read that book “The Wave”. It will open your eyes to what is going on here in a way I can’t describe in words.
Once you understand how easy ignorance and fear can take over someone’s life and how easy it is to get cot up in it you will see the reason I’m so concerned.
The Wave can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(book) and here http://www.ecampus.com/bk_detail.asp?isbn=9780440993711&referrer=frgl for $4.82.
It’s real and the fear from this book will have you looking at our government and society in a whole new way.
“What is happening is people such as newmikey, johncoom / coomjohn, and others have infiltrated PCLinuxOS forums and IRC chat”
Justin, for the sake of clarity and fairness, although I do not know all of these people I have seen a lot of posts tagged with those names that seem to be quite straightforward support, could you quote or link something to illustrate that point?
I know johncoom runs a good torrent site that provides excellent service to many, newmikey is active in the Linux community and runs both the Dutch PCLinuxOS community and that of the DPE project. You may have had disagreements with them but that does not make them trolls.
“I can’t say that I see the discrimination being targeted directly towards the disabled since I can’t see the discriminating Posts on the video but I do recognize those user names.”
Well, I am not surprised you do as these are the people that make PCLinuxOS, Texstar, Sal and Exterm are shown. What are you trying to say here?
“These Trolls belong to cults and I have evidence that supports it.”
Normally one would expect you would now provide said evidence?
“What I found was that he is part of a cult that is against Morals and Religion.”
I have followed your link and end up on sites that promotes rationalism, atheism and a couple more *ismÂ’s. Where exactly did you find that there is such a cult and that it is against Morals and Religion? Whose morals and which religion would be my next question.
“Now I don’t want to be racist against any Linux distributions but I want to state some facts.”
You seem to enjoy using the term “racist”, but really, racist against a Linux distro? There seems to be a misunderstanding here. A racist is a person who dislikes or distrusts people on what they are, not what they do. Nobody is born as a “Linuxian” therefore you are somewhat abusive with your terminology.
“They believe they will become the supreme Linux Distro and wipe out all others.”
Just a reminder: “The Ultimate Linux Distro” was coined by you, wasn’t it?
“PCLinuxOS and some other distros are headed in the same direction. I don’t believe that this spirit is being driven by people that started the projects but rather by these kults or representatives from these cults. It may even be funded by Microsoft.”
Now you are starting to sound paranoid. Where are these cults, where is the link to MS? If you make such statements you are slowly moving into terrain where you could be sued.
“Originally the people at PCLinuxOS accused me of copying PCLinuxOS and not giving them credit. They did the same thing to MCNLive. A Linux distribution that PCLinuxOS was based off of.”
Justin, you simply do not know or understand any of this. MCNLive is a Mandriva remaster made by a Dutch group led by Kris. They offer full support for their wonderful liveCD and a lot of their work has been fed upstream into Mandriva. They keep perfect sync with MDV.
PCLinuxOS is not a remaster, but an offshoot of Mandriva that has a lot of unique elements not found in its parent.
They are both excellent ways to discover Linux and enjoy a full-fledged OS with great community support.
“I could be wrong about this but it looks like MCNLive came out first. MCNLive was released 2006-11-19 and PCLinuxOS was released 2007-02-15. This would lead me to believe Textar did the same thing I did except he didn’t give any credit.”
You are definitely wrong! If I can easily find the following information, why canÂ’t you? Why would you post an obvious lie?
“MCNLive is in active development. Stable editions since 2004. The latest is MCNLive VirtualCity (2007). A team of Dutch and Belgian volunteers are creating and testing MCNLive.” ( http://www.biginfobook.com/MCNLive )
“In 2003, Texstar created a fork of Mandrake Linux 9.2 (which was released in October 2003). Working closely with The LiveCD Project, Texstar has since developed that fork independently into a full-fledged distribution. The initial releases were successively numbered as “previews” i.e. p5, p7, p8 up to p81a, then p9, p91, p92.” ( http://www.biginfobook.com/Pclinuxos )
“Now part of freedom of Religion and freedom of speech is the right to stand up for what we believe. If I’m a Christian and I believe that Christianity is the only way to Heaven as all true Christians believe then I’m entitled to that belief.”
You absolutely are entitled to your belief, I just wish you would practise a bit more what you preach.
In the end of it, it is you who is in trouble with just about everybody else. All of these communities seem to get on with their business as usual once they rid themselves of you and they are all, without exception, great communities who help their users and promote Linux.
You got yourself thrown out of the Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Granular, Mint en god knows how many more communities. Are they all infected with cults? Is everybody else wrong while you are right? How likely is that?
“I would go so far as to say that this underground group, cult, movement or whatever is responsible for the negative attitude of the Ubuntu LoCo community and the PCLinuxOS community. This is why Linux wont succeed if people keep getting absorbed by this group. Thats exactly what they want to happen with Ultumix. They canÂ’t stand to see us work together united in this way. atheists, Christians, Agnostics, all working together for the common good of liberation and freedom of the Linux Community.”
I believe you should seek help for this unrealistic view of the world around you. The world is not trying to destroy you, most of the world doesnÂ’t even know you exist.
Justin, for the sake of clarity and fairness, although I do not know all of these people I have seen a lot of posts tagged with those names that seem to be quite straightforward support, could you quote or link something to illustrate that point?
You want 1 example. Go here http://opensourcelearning.info/blog/?p=720 Here is a direct quote from newmikey. “He has confessed in this thread how serious he takes equality and justice for all, regardless of race or religion as long as they are white, christian, heterosexual and speak English. I find him a disgrace to the whole FOSS community that has proven so many times to have a total disregard for borders, be they ethnic, topographical or sexual. It is one of the strengths that everyone is welcome to make a contribution and everyone is recognized for that contribution.”
“I know johncoom runs a good torrent site that provides excellent service to many, newmikey is active in the Linux community and runs both the Dutch PCLinuxOS community and that of the DPE project. You may have had disagreements with them but that does not make them trolls.”
Ok maybe johncoom or coomjohn is not a troll intentionally but he has followed me to the end of the internet to try to harass me. He stopped posting publically shortly after
“I can’t say that I see the discrimination being targeted directly towards the disabled since I can’t see the discriminating Posts on the video but I do recognize those user names.”
Well, I am not surprised you do as these are the people that make PCLinuxOS, Texstar, Sal and Exterm are shown. What are you trying to say here?
“Textar is oblivious to any of this devision or discrimination or at least he acts that way but Sal, and others seem to be the cause.”
“These Trolls belong to cults and I have evidence that supports it.”
Normally one would expect you would now provide said evidence?
“What I found was that he is part of a cult that is against Morals and Religion.”
I have followed your link and end up on sites that promotes rationalism, atheism and a couple more *ismÂ’s. Where exactly did you find that there is such a cult and that it is against Morals and Religion? Whose morals and which religion would be my next question.
http://groups.myspace.com/FTTMF
“Now I don’t want to be racist against any Linux distributions but I want to state some facts.”
You seem to enjoy using the term “racist”, but really, racist against a Linux distro? There seems to be a misunderstanding here. A racist is a person who dislikes or distrusts people on what they are, not what they do. Nobody is born as a “Linuxian” therefore you are somewhat abusive with your terminology.
“Lately people have found so many things to attach the word racist too that I’m being both sarcastic in it’s use and trying to prevent the revenge of the internet trolls.”
“They believe they will become the supreme Linux Distro and wipe out all others.”
Just a reminder: “The Ultimate Linux Distro” was coined by you, wasn’t it?
“Actually it was made up by someone else who was making my logos for me. I just thought it sounded funny.”
“PCLinuxOS and some other distros are headed in the same direction. I don’t believe that this spirit is being driven by people that started the projects but rather by these kults or representatives from these cults. It may even be funded by Microsoft.”
Now you are starting to sound paranoid. Where are these cults, where is the link to MS? If you make such statements you are slowly moving into terrain where you could be sued.
I’m not saying that Microsoft is trying to destroy the Linux community because they could not even if they wanted too. All I’m saying is it’s possible for them to be getting funding from Microsoft. How else do you explain spending 24 hour days just trying to disrupt Linux communities? Are they spending their retirement?
“Originally the people at PCLinuxOS accused me of copying PCLinuxOS and not giving them credit. They did the same thing to MCNLive. A Linux distribution that PCLinuxOS was based off of.”
Justin, you simply do not know or understand any of this. MCNLive is a Mandriva remaster made by a Dutch group led by Kris. They offer full support for their wonderful liveCD and a lot of their work has been fed upstream into Mandriva. They keep perfect sync with MDV.
PCLinuxOS is not a remaster, but an offshoot of Mandriva that has a lot of unique elements not found in its parent.
They are both excellent ways to discover Linux and enjoy a full-fledged OS with great community support.
I just confirmed that PCLinuxOS was based directly off of mandriva. However there is some new incriminating evidence surfacing and I don’t want to post it just yet because I need to make sure that my sources have their facts straight. All I can say is that they still did the exact same thing that they are accusing me of.
“MCNLive is in active development. Stable editions since 2004. The latest is MCNLive VirtualCity (2007). A team of Dutch and Belgian volunteers are creating and testing MCNLive.” ( http://www.biginfobook.com/MCNLive )
“In 2003, Texstar created a fork of Mandrake Linux 9.2 (which was released in October 2003). Working closely with The LiveCD Project, Texstar has since developed that fork independently into a full-fledged distribution. The initial releases were successively numbered as “previews” i.e. p5, p7, p8 up to p81a, then p9, p91, p92.” ( http://www.biginfobook.com/Pclinuxos )
“Now part of freedom of Religion and freedom of speech is the right to stand up for what we believe. If I’m a Christian and I believe that Christianity is the only way to Heaven as all true Christians believe then I’m entitled to that belief.”
You absolutely are entitled to your belief, I just wish you would practice a bit more what you preach.
In the end of it, it is you who is in trouble with just about everybody else. All of these communities seem to get on with their business as usual once they rid themselves of you and they are all, without exception, great communities who help their users and promote Linux.
You got yourself thrown out of the Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Granular, Mint en god knows how many more communities. Are they all infected with cults? Is everybody else wrong while you are right? How likely is that?
I never got thrown out of the Ubuntu community or the Granular Community. Just PCLinuxOS. Get your facts straight.
“I would go so far as to say that this underground group, cult, movement or whatever is responsible for the negative attitude of the Ubuntu LoCo community and the PCLinuxOS community. This is why Linux wont succeed if people keep getting absorbed by this group. Thats exactly what they want to happen with Ultumix. They can’t stand to see us work together united in this way. atheists, Christians, Agnostics, all working together for the common good of liberation and freedom of the Linux Community.”
I believe you should seek help for this unrealistic view of the world around you. The world is not trying to destroy you, most of the world doesnÂ’t even know you exist.
You must not know the ways of this world. The ways of this world are about self. Promoting one’s self and selfish desires above all else. The ways of this world are not helping one another but bringing destruction. Do you follow the ways of this world as most do or do you have good morals that you follow? Selfless morals.
“I canÂ’t say that I see the discrimination being targeted directly towards the disabled”
“Textar is oblivious to any of this devision or discrimination or at least he acts that way but Sal, and others seem to be the cause.”
Can you not understand that, to whoever reads this, it may seem as if you are saying “I cannot see any proof of a crime being committed but nevertheless these people are criminals”?
“I just confirmed that PCLinuxOS was based directly off of mandriva.”
Well Justin, everybody knows that, it is splattered on the PCLinuxOS website, every review refers to it, so I am not entirely sure why you would need to ‘confirm’ that?
From http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=70
‘PCLinuxOS was originally based on another distribution under the name of Mandriva and shares many features of Mandriva such as the Control Center and the Draklive Installer. Texstar and team would like to thank the developers, contributors and others associated with Mandriva who may have indirectly contributed to the PCLinuxOS distribution.
In addition to Mandriva, PCLinuxOS would also like to thank the developers of the Gentoo, OpenSuSE, Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu as we also use patches and bugs fixes from those distributions.’
And finally, when you compare what the PCLInuxOS team did with its parent Mandriva, Mint with its parent Ubuntu, yes even Mandiva with its parent RedHat, to what you did with your attempt at “the Ultimate Linux Distro”, you are not being entirely truthfull.
What differentiates all of the above distros (except Mandriva off course) is that they have a community, they do things together, they get groups of people to create new stuff and rise above their own expectations in exchange for….recognition. As to Mandriva: it invested money, salaries, it took business risks that didn’t all pay off, to become what it is now.
You have some great ideas, but do not exactly know how to go about executing them. Ultumix is all about Justin and nobody else. Any and all who offered advice and/or help were scolded and verbally abused by you – attacked on their lack of morals. Distros that grab a business opportunity are ‘evil’. People that speak out are ‘trolls’.
Now will you please re-read your last paragraph about ‘selfless morals’ and use that as a measuring stick for yourself?
You can turn this around, you can even make Ultimix a viable distro – with patience and plenty of time (GH). It took Texstar 4 years, Clem a year and a half to get where PCLinuxOS and Mint are now. You have to learn to control your impatience.
You can turn that Sourceforge forum around into a real support forum where people will want to join you in developing the ultimate Linux distro. Give them a vision, set goals and objectives and most important: set the example without taking ownership of the glory!
Instead of spamming every Linux related newssite with marketing yells that hail your new distro as the absolute best thing since toothpaste, try the subtle approach: let your product do the talking, let your team get their name and fame.
Use what you have now to give to friends, family, the customers in your computer business. Believe me, the word will get out. But when you do, make sure there is something special in there that only you can provide. Something more than a desktop background or a rearranged menu. Add value instead or redistributing that what already exists.
You will learn from this the easy way or the hard way. Better you start out doing it the easy way from here on in.
You used this quote before and now I am going to turn it back on you: ‘Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.’ Matthew
In order to not have a discussion about the translation and its validity:
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
So why do you see the piece of sawdust in another believer’s eye and not notice the wooden beam in your own eye?
King James Bible
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
American Standard Version
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Bible in Basic English
And why do you take note of the grain of dust in your brother’s eye, but take no note of the bit of wood which is in your eye?
Douay-Rheims Bible
Any why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye?
Darby Bible Translation
But why lookest thou on the mote that is in the eye of thy brother, but observest not the beam that is in thine eye?
English Revised Version
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Tyndale New Testament
Why seest thou a mote in thy brother’s eye, and perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Weymouth New Testament
And why do you look at the splinter in your brother’s eye, and not notice the beam which is in your own eye?
Webster’s Bible Translation
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thy own eye?
World English Bible
Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye?
Young’s Literal Translation
And why dost thou behold the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, and the beam that is in thine own eye dost not consider?
It applies to you and you alone in this matter. You should stop promoting yourself and your selfish desires above all else.
Now, I think this was a good, solid piece of advice, written with as open a mind as I could manage. I have been friendly, but stern – being over twice your age, I guess I am entitled to that.
If you choose to burn me to the ground, start accusing other people again, go off into philosophical or religious ponderings, you will only accomplish the opposite of what you wish for and I will not respond to such talk anymore.
Please Justin, re-read this, re-evaluate your own performance on the selfless scale of life, reset your standards, stop judging exactly those people who have already accomplished something.
Accomplish something for your self, under your own steam, something positive.
The scripture you refer to applies directly to PCLinuxOS. There is new news your not aware of yet about PCLinuxOS taking credit for a lot of stuff other people did in much the same way I did. But I’m saving that for later.
“You have some great ideas, but do not exactly know how to go about executing them. Ultumix is all about Justin and nobody else. Any and all who offered advice and/or help were scolded and verbally abused by you – attacked on their lack of morals. Distros that grab a business opportunity are ‘evilÂ’. People that speak out are ‘trollsÂ’.”
Say what you want about “Ultumix being about Justin”. I don’t really care what you think. In fact I don’t see why I don’t just delete your reply to this topic? anyone? anyone?
–silence–
I created Ultumix because I got sick and tired of waiting for PCLinuxOS to put out a new .iso with updated drivers and programs for my customers and friends and I had to reconfigure it every time I installed it to make it more Windows Friendly. Now I don’t have to explain myself you you but I did now once again. LAY OFF!
I am truly sorry you do not miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
I will lay off.
“I created Ultumix because I got sick and tired of waiting for PCLinuxOS to put out a new .iso”
They were fixing things, I am pretty sure some wireless issues, and some others. They could have released something, but some would have had problems. Working through things before releasing it is a plus in my eyes. As for taking a long time, well, they aren’t paid to do what they do, they get no profit, they have day jobs, they want it right when it’s “officially” released. If a person doesn’t like how they handle THEIR project, then they can move to another, that’s why there are so many distros to choose from. Or you could have made a remaster for your own personal uses (as it is mainly intended, as anyone can do it, and not everyone releases distros).
As to whatever else you think you have on them, you seem to be rather intent on discrediting them and others. I wish you luck on your endeavor. I recall some complaining about descriptions of files in the repository, and some other minor things going on in their forum. I don’t know lately, as I don’t even have an account there, and I only check in from time to time.
Please don’t view this as a flame, just calm talking and advice (as ranger2 has mostly attempted to give).
“As to whatever else you think you have on them, you seem to be rather intent on discrediting them and others. I wish you luck on your endeavor. I recall some complaining about descriptions of files in the repository, and some other minor things going on in their forum. I donÂ’t know lately, as I donÂ’t even have an account there, and I only check in from time to time.”
I’m going to take the time to make this clearer to you. I don’t remember attacking PCLinuxOS. The way I remember it I decided to put out an .iso and ask the PCLinuxOS community if it was ok or not. They got very angry at me and I tried to do what they wanted but before they would be specific they banned me. I agreed with some of their accusations and still do. I can admit what I did wrong. However they showed me no grace or mercy at all. Instead of collaborating they excluded me. That does not sound like the ways of Richard Stallman at all. I don’t want to hurt the PCLinuxOS distro or community. I simply want to lay this whole thing to rest by proving that PCLinuxOS is just as guilty if not more guilty than I am of what they accused me of.
I have a guy who is currently harassing me and keeps calling my parents house. I don’t think they deserve that and I also don’t think I’m to blame. Especially when my phone number I posted on my site is my Cell Phone number and not my parents’ number. So as you can see I do feel attacked. I also have seen this happen to other communities and distributions and persons. Some of these persons have switched distros because of this.
What is worse is this guy is trying to scare me and has threatened me saying he would sue me for someone else’s actions. I’m still trying to find a reason to believe him.
Why do people put so much effort into disrupting a project or community and turning them against each other? Can you tell me? I don’t understand these people. I would like to understand them better.
By the way thanks for your apologies.
Just one for the road:
“I have a guy who is currently harassing me and keeps calling my parents house. I donÂ’t think they deserve that and I also donÂ’t think IÂ’m to blame.”
Justin, I just listened to your youtube video at http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=mSd4mvw4Fmg
You can be clearly heard stating your full name and regular phonenumber to the PayPal lady on the phone. Every screwball on earth has heard you and you don’t think you are to blame?
A personal phonenumber, including area code, adress and everything on YouTube, you must be joking this time. Who in his right mind would do such a thing and expect nothing would happen?
How this connects to any Linux community at all I don’t know. Anybody with an internet connection hears you loud and clear.
ranger2 judging from your responses you appear to be Eric Keeler Systems Engineer at East Educational Serveses Ink. http://tinyurl.com/343kkp and all your info is already on the internet that I posted before so how could you sue me for reposting what your company posted?
Secondly you told me that Ken Starks and some of my volunteers at Ultumix.com are lying to me about there being a lot of people that have been banned from PCLinuxOS including the people that told me they were personally banned. You also told me that Ken Starks was guilty of requesting funds from people online for cancer that he never had. I will ask you to kindly confirm that you did say this. If what you say is true then everyone including Thomas (the owner of this site) should be warned along with the rest of the Linux community. Please post clearly what your issues are with Ken and the other people you say lied to me and any evidence that you have. Thanks for your time. If what you say is true then I want to get this Ken Guy taken care of ASAP.
Justin,
You are off the deep end now. Eric who? You’re absolutely nuts you know that?
This is getting to be quite ridiculous and you are exposing your own stupidity now. Are you accusing Helios whom you said was going to do all of these scripts for you? He’s going to be thrilled to hear that, just thrilled!
This is slowly turning into a movie, bad script but nevertheless a movie.
Ok ranger2 so your not Eric the guy who is harassing me and calling my parent’s house. Then I want the real Eric to be a man and respond to my post.
Since my name (Jan) is mentioned in the article a brief remark.
I am not aware that any of my posts on the Ultumix forum has been blocked or removed by Justin Breithaupt. I am aware that some anonymous posts have been attributed to me, but -as I wrote in the Ultumix forum and various other places- I have no reservations to stating my opinion and criticism under my own name.
Other than that I can only encourage all participants in the Ultimux debate to take a step back, a deep breath and a good look at what is happening. After that is time to realize that life should be more than this.
Regards,
Jan Stedehouder
@ranger2
I understand discretion being needed concerning phone numbers. However, it does not justify someone else calling that number to harass people who were never involved in any of this in the first place.
@Jan
“Other than that I can only encourage all participants in the Ultimux debate to take a step back, a deep breath and a good look at what is happening. After that is time to realize that life should be more than this.”
I couldn’t agree more at this point. What I have seen in the past several days… was quite insane. Nothing is going to be solved by bickering at one another all day long.
Ya I think it’s time I stop responding to these blogs or forums period (except to support my users) and just concentrate on making a good OS. I don’t think it’s doing any good to do anything else. These discussions are not getting anyone anywhere because we obviously don’t agree. I don’t understand why but that just means that one of us does not see the other’s point of view. Oh well.