Is PCLinuxOS Going Backwards? I’m Concerned.

Is PCLinuxOS Going Backwards? I’m Concerned. (this is a non-biased post)

I am very concerned for the PCLinuxOS community. A year ago they had a great Linux distribution that any Windows user would gladly switch from. Now however if you try to update PCLinuxOS 2007 (and the new xorg and kernel) it usually won’t continue to boot up. The latest release of PCLinuxOS is Gnome based and as everyone knows Gnome uses an interface and menu that is not recognized by the common Windows User. Of course the official release of PCLinuxOS 2008 will have KDE but there are several mistakes that need to be solved before puttiong out the 2008 Version.

First of all needing to reboot in order to partition your Hard Drive is just wierd.

Second of all you should be able to update the Kernel without a major system melt down.

Third they need all of the Hardware Support that Ubuntu, Mint, and other distros have for the new Laptops and Desktops.

Finally they need to find a way to be more open to their users.

I think maybe the reason that the updates that cause PCLinuxOS to not boot all the way may be a result of configuring the new packages for the Gnome version of PCLinuxOS instead. I am glad the PCLinuxOS community is finally releasing another version after a hole year.

There is a company that followed a similar pattern in development but for a different reason I believe.

First they put out a very solid OS that people enjoyed from 2001 to 2006. Then they tried to replace it with a “better” OS. The problem was no one liked their better OS so they tried to stick with the older one. Now the updates for that OS are causing decreased functionality. This could be because they only design drivers, programs, and updates for their newer OS or it could be because they don’t want people using the old OS. This company is Micro$oft in case you can’t tell. Like PCLinuxOS using Gnome, Mico$oft uses a new interface that confuses people too. It has a strange start menu. They also did away with a lot of the programs in Vista but I hope that has no comparison with the new PCLinuxOS.

Now just for fun why don’t I compare Microsoft to the movie iRobot?

In iRobot you have a story where everyone has a personal robot to care for them that’s 3 laws safe.

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

But USR (that makes the robots) decides it’s time to upgrade to their latest model. They even offer free trade ins. The new Robots are directly linked to Vickie. An AI mainframe that has access to everything. Vickie comes to the conclusion that she can’t trust humans to take care of themselves because of violence and wars. So she bypasses the 3 laws after numerous updates that she gives the robots remotely. Then the robots start imposing curfews and restrictions on humans.

Micro$oft has done the same thing except they charge us to do it. However they haven’t replaced all of the old XP computers with new better Vista computers yet. They need to figure that part out first. Vista has the ability to be controlled directly by Microsoft both legally and physically. XP can’t be controlled legally without consent but it’s still controlled despite the law. Microsoft has started imposing restrictions on what we can do with our computers. Their new user agreement gives them the Legal rite to add or remove access, programs, or files at will without your permission because you already gave it to them to start using Vista. So it’s a matter of time until Micro$oft will control all of their customers. They have already started doing this to colleges. Colleges who pay rent for Vista have their laptops disabled every 3 months for disconnecting from the Internet. They must call and reactivate their PCs.

The XBOX 360 violates the FCC’s Laws. Their wireless remotes and consoles disable all wireless devices within a given radius of over 100 feet. Just plugging one in will give off enough radiation to disable an entire Wall Mart. A Cisco expert said that his tests proved that the XBOX 360 uses all 12 channels of WiFi which is clearly illegal. The amount of radiation coming from the device is dangerous and can cause cancer. I would not want anyone to be within 20 feet of the thing when it is on let alone the wireless remote control.

The difference between the story of iRobot and Micro$oft is that our Government (if following the current trends and history) will condone everything Micro$oft has done. Another example of FCC violations are high power lines. They put out too much radiation and walking directly under them is bad for you. The FCC discovered this but it would cost too much for the Power Company to put a fence between the poles on both sides and to make a protective tunnel underneath. So we have High Power Lines right out in the open.

9 Responses to “Is PCLinuxOS Going Backwards? I’m Concerned.”

  1. Hold on there Justin. The PCLinuxOS you are speaking of is a re-master with GNOME instead of KDE (for those who prefer GNOME anyway… different folks, different strokes). It’s not the main distro at all. With that said, the updates causing issues to the main distro is not a good thing for anyone. I will be adding a note after making this comment at the beginning of the blog post.

  2. jjaa says:

    well, and knowing it’s easier to criticize than doing the job, I have to admit I’m somewhat disappointed by this version.
    I’m a user of PCLINUX KDE version and also Mint in gnome.
    So the idea of having PCLINUX in gnome did appeal me
    but, let’s say the installation is not so intuitive (why the need to rebott after selecting a disk and formating it??) plus, game like GL117 (which I use to test the 3D acceleration) started OK but froze my PC when trying to play.
    OK, it’s the 1st version so let’s hope niggles like these (I did not tested it too much after all) will be corrected

  3. bones113 says:

    What updates are you talking about that are breaking user’s system’s?. I use PCLinuxOS 2007 and it is fully updated and have no issues. Sure there are some circumstances that will effect the system but overall the update process has been quite painless over the history of this fine distro. This distro is a rolling release and the update process is critical if you want the latest and greatest. If you dont then there is really no reason to update(aside from a security standpoint i.e firefox etc.) I wish you would be more specific as to the problems of updating. It sure would clear things up.

  4. bones did you try updating your xorg and Kernel? Did you install the latest programs? Try that and reboot. You will get a mysterious error asking you to type your root password or press Ctrl D. Then you have to type startx to bring anything up. you can’t log in to other user accounts. Your alsa does not start automatically. Your hozed unless you reinstall your OS. The error specifically is Bad Superblock Error, and it recommends you fsck.

  5. I apologize for the long wait for approval of comments. I am the only one who can approve them (and for a good reason… so no one else can go on a massive power trip). I was at work from 3 – 10 PM Central Standard Time. Both of you have nothing to worry about now. Once your comment is approved, you can freely comment on this post and future posts. Now allow me to address both of your comments myself.


    The GNOME edition is a re-master of PCLinuxOS. It’s done by a different group of people, though Texstarr has apparently assisted them.

    Scroll down until you see the announcement about the GNOME re-master


    I believe the issue at hand is a bad superblock issue after updating the system. The e-mail I got about that was about December 20. After marking all updates, installing them, and rebooting the system, the error rears its ugly head. I believe the issue popped up for Justin in Granular as well. Let me ask him for more information on this, and I’ll get back to you. 🙂

  6. Any PCLinuxOS based distros that have either the new kernel installed and then the latest updates installed on top or

    The latest updates and then the latest kernel go gunneybag on a reboot. Of course you need to update your xorg too.

    It does not matter what order you install things in. It does not matter if you install the Kernel first. You get the same fun error every time. Granular’s DVD has the updates. Putting the latest kernel in it makes it unstable or did I get that backwards? i don’t know. All I know is that I’m not the only one. My unkle had the same problem and so did others. So now I’m working on based on Mint KDE (a much more stable release) still in beta and it seems to work flawlessly. I’m going to install it on a new PC tomorrow if it makes the iso correctly tonight.

    I have a nice flat screen computer I’m building for a customer that I can video. Also I have some new cool software that came with a TV Tuner Card that is from the same makers of iPhotoPlus4. I believe I can video myself dictating the actions on the screen and then overlay it on top of the video. I hope it works in Linux under wine or mono. I know it works on my Dad’s XP PC.

    Too bad I can’t convert him yet.

  7. bones113 says:

    I still have not had that problem at all. I am fully updated with all updatable packages, drivers etc. My install runs as smooth as a baby’s rear end with no problems whatsoever. I think that the problems you mention are a isolated thing and that the update process works quite well for the vast majority of users. I am sure that texstar and the gang will address this issue to see if there is a problem. This distro is ultra stable for 90-95% of users and as with all distro’s there will be quirks for a small amount of users. THere is no perfect distro but this one comes as close as I have seen.

  8. Are you using a 64 bit computer with an SATA hard drive and at least 1 GB of RAM? That is what all the computers have in common that have this problem. It does not affect Virtual Machines.

  9. In that case, it could be a SATA driver issue……. Hmm…….

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