Just a Random Post…

Well… sort of. It shall be ambiguous to a degree for a good reason. We all have issues with other people from time to time. It is bound to occur sooner or later. This is simply some brain food of sorts. That is all this post will consist of. So allow me to give all the readers of this blog some insight.

  1. Not being Christian does not automatically make you better than a Christian: We all have different belief systems in this world. Even atheism is a belief system (one that excludes the belief in the existence of any deity). However, it is important to note that you are no better if you spend all your time trying to convince a Christian that they are mentally ill. Perhaps they are being too hyper about a project they are working on. Or perhaps they are overly honest about what they believe. The more you learn about someone else’s philosophy in life, the more you learn about yourself, which brings us to the next point.
  2. Nobody is better than anybody else, no matter what: I could be in the same room as George Soros. Soros would not be better than I am, nor would I be better than him. He has more wealth than I do, but in the end we are both human. We are both living beings capable of verbal dialog, thought, and emotion.
  3. Spelling and grammar does not make a person evil: Having unwritten rules concerning grammar and whatnot is very harmful to any group of people. After all, what if a person constantly making type-ohs is dyslexic? I have English grammar (American version anyway) mostly correct because I choose to do so. It is not perfect, nor will it ever be perfect. However, I do have a warning to grammar nazis out there: If you want to criticize my writing, feel free to waste your time. If it is a mere suggestion however, I will hear you out.
  4. Accusing somebody of being a racist is more effective if you have proof: This is another thing that gets me. I see accusations of racism, yet they offer no proof. Keep in mind that racism refers to ethnicity, not life style. 😉
  5. Making everybody happy all the time is hopeless: It will never happen. Instead, focus on the ones you are making happy, and figure out how to keep them happy.

Well, that is all for now. 8)

9 Responses to “Just a Random Post…”

  1. a1b1 says:

    Very nice post, my thoughts/additions that could apply to many people.

    1. Exactly, also the opposite is true, being a Christian does not make you better than anyone else, that mentality is also common. The world is a big place. As for convincing someone with a belief that they are mentally ill as you state, also true. However, some make it quite obvious they have severe problems by observing their actions/writing/paranoia/”everyone’s out to get me no one will help me” dealings…, having nothing to do with their religion (although they are quick to think/state that it is). There is a difference there.

    2. Exactly.

    3. Also true, but when someone shows no effort whatsoever, or puts themselves out there as someone that is supposed to be fairly educated, a writer/professional/posting announcements/etc., that’s another story, especially when Firefox etc. have built in automatic spell checkers. It’s “typos” by the way. 🙂 🙂 😉 j/k

    4. Also true. Prejudice (or perhaps a better term that applies to not liking or being comfortable around someone because of their lifestyle/beliefs/color all rolled into one) as well. Some demonstrate that, then say they aren’t, then forget about posts that can still be found somewhere.

    5. Exactly.

  2. 1.) Keep in mind that there have been those out there who slam Christianity as well. This happened to someone I know. Keep in mind there is a difference between cramming a point of view down one’s throat and simply being honest about said point of view being held.

    3.) Again, remember that it is always possible that the person posting on a forum, blog, etc… can very well have a disability that hinders them, such as dyslexia. Such things affect people in different ways.

    4.) “Some demonstrate that, then say they aren’t, then forget about posts that can still be found somewhere.” Understood, but could it also be a misinterpretation of what the individual said as well?

    Let’s continue with this discussion. Keep the comments coming.

  3. ranger2 says:

    Just a random answer then:
    “1.Not being Christian does not automatically make you better than a Christian”

    No, but judging by the person’s own words, even some Christians are better than others:

    QUOTE-“If you reject the NIV and KJV Bible then I don’t need to hear any reply from you” -END QUOTE

    QUOTE-“You have the Jehovah’s Witness Bible Right? Have you ever compared it to the true NIV or King James versions? No I think that you have constructed a God in your mind that you feel comfortable around and you own Law which I doubt you can even follow.” -END QUOTE

    Think Christians who do not understand English, Christians in other parts of the world, Catholics, Church of England, Dutch Reformed etc. etc. They are all wrong while this person seems to be right. He seems to feel he has obtained superiority here, remember?

    “4.Accusing somebody of being a racist is more effective if you have proof: This is another thing that gets me. I see accusations of racism, yet they offer no proof. Keep in mind that racism refers to ethnicity, not life style.”

    The proof is right there, saved on the almighty web, as if God himself wrote it down in his heavenly Blackberry:

    QUOTE-“All though I am not racist I don’t feel comfortable around certain races because I just don’t.

    ….. As with any race or religion that goes against my morality. ” -END QUOTE

    Lifestyle, you say? The above certainly does not refer to lifestyle, it refers to any race or religion that goes against this persons morality as if it is conceivable that a race could go against someones morality. Any immoral religions out there that you know of?

    Isn’t that EXACTLY what is commonly called racism?

  4. “Think Christians who do not understand English, Christians in other parts of the world, Catholics, Church of England, Dutch Reformed etc. etc. They are all wrong while this person seems to be right. He seems to feel he has obtained superiority here, remember?”

    While that is closed minded, did it ever occur to you that the individual who may or may not have said that (note: if you’re going to quote someone, please include a URL, and if it is a long URL, use tinyurl to shorten it) has only lived in one general area their whole life?

    “The proof is right there, saved on the almighty web, as if God himself wrote it down in his heavenly Blackberry:”

    Just typing something in and calling it a quote is not sufficient proof. It often helps to point to a specific URL where it was said. If the URL is long, then go to http://www.tinyurl.com and paste the URL in question into their address bar. Then click the button that will make the URL much smaller so it will fit better into the layout of this blog.

    “QUOTE-”All though I am not racist I don’t feel comfortable around certain races because I just don’t.
    ….. As with any race or religion that goes against my morality. ” -END QUOTE”

    First off, I have seen racism and discrimination against other lifestyles (i.e. gay and lesbian) being intermixed, when they are actually two unique topics in and of themselves. Did you not notice the part where the individual said they are not comfortable? They are not actively opposed to other ways of culture and life are they? Are they actively trying to stop people from living a certain way, much like a “white supremacist” attempted to stop those not of their “color” from being considered human like everyone else in America? From what you are quoting, the individual may simply not be comfortable with people of different ethnicity, because they did not grow up in a multi-ethnic environment. I myself grew up in an environment that did not start to be multi-ethnic until I was in high school.

    So how is admitting to being uncomfortable an indication that there is something wrong with a person? So would you rather not hear of any discomfort from anyone else concerning ethnicity and culture? I would rather hear about it, especially considering how African Americans and Korean immigrants may have conflicts from time to time. If people from both cultures in general were to admit they were not comfortable with one another in the first place, then they may be able to learn more about each other, then come to understanding of why each other may act the way they do in different situations. Some may call such discomfort racism. I call it culture shock.

    This has been a very good discussion thus far. Let’s keep it going. Also note that if you are a new user on this blog, the first comment will be placed under moderation (to make sure you aren’t a spam bot), but after the comment is approved, you won’t need to wait for moderation. So have it. Keep the comments coming. 😀

  5. ranger2 says:

    “While that is closed minded, did it ever occur to you that the individual who may or may not have said that (note: if you’re going to quote someone, please include a URL, and if it is a long URL, use tinyurl to shorten it) has only lived in one general area their whole life?”

    That thought crossed my mind, but the person in questioned answered that he had seen a lot of the world, including Canada!

    “Just typing something in and calling it a quote is not sufficient proof.”

    I was not trying to provide proof of any kind. I suppose anybody could go look up those very comments on Tuxmachines and on the persons own Sourceforge forum.

    “First off, I have seen racism and discrimination against other lifestyles (i.e. gay and lesbian) being intermixed, when they are actually two unique topics in and of themselves.”

    So the person is a racist AND he discriminates against gays and lesbians. Well, I’m ok with that statement too.

    “They are not actively opposed to other ways of culture and life are they? Are they actively trying to stop people from living a certain way, much like a “white supremacist” attempted to stop those not of their “color” from being considered human like everyone else in America? From what you are quoting, the individual may simply not be comfortable with people of different ethnicity, because they did not grow up in a multi-ethnic environment. I myself grew up in an environment that did not start to be multi-ethnic until I was in high school.”

    Now you are confusing race and ethnicity. I fail to see where the two are interchangeable, same as I fail to see what a persons religion has to do with race.

    By this persons own admission, he finds people of other races, religions, nationalities and/or ethnicity immoral. Whether or not he actually has experiences with such “alien” beings is totally beside the point.

    You can call that racism, discrimination, bigotry or any other name, it doesn’t really matter to me. You cannot however absolve this person of his own irresponsible behaviour and you cannot make this person more acceptable. He is the only one responsible for making his own world very small and alienating everyone out there, not you.

    At least it is not coming from a well-educated person, in which case it might even be considered dangerous. Under these circumstances, from this person, there is no danger as most people will be smart enough to dismiss his ramblings immediately.

    Enough said, it’s not worth the breaths spent. You might think carefully on how and when you want to provide this person with a platform anyway. You seem to have the capacity for lucid reasoning and discussion at the very least, anyway.

  6. Why not continue the discussion instead of simply walking away? I would say it is a bit early to do so at this point, and is the reason why this country and the rest of the world is in the condition it is in today.

    “You might think carefully on how and when you want to provide this person with a platform anyway.”

    To which I counter with:

    “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” –Voltaire

    I tend to substitute the word race with ethnicity instead. Perhaps it’s a bad habit. However, I do not like the term race. It’s too collective for my liking. I’m talking about the bad form of collectivism in which it becomes an “us vs them” mentality. That is the reason there is discrimination against those with different skin color today. If an African American for example were to dress up in a nice suit, get a degree, and a very rewarding career, their fellow African Americans may accuse them of selling out to Whitey. If Whitey on the other hand talks to anybody and gets along in general with everyone regardless of who they are and what they look like, they may be accused of betraying “their race.” Ironically, those against Darwinism should be opposed to the idea of human “races.” Unfortunately, that is not always the case.

    You also misinterpreted one of my statements in response to you. Racism and discrimination against alternative lifestyles are often seen as the same, when the two subjects are unique in and of themselves.

    Please stick around, and do feel free to comment. The more feedback I get, the more I learn.

  7. ranger2 says:

    “To which I counter with:

    I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”

    Bravo! I appreciate that and I accept that as a reason without further discussion. Right answer, 10 points.

    “I tend to substitute the word race with ethnicity instead. Perhaps it’s a bad habit.”

    Although I agree with you in your dislike of the term race, there is merit in keeping the two terms separate and distinguishable. They do have an entirely different meaning, certainly when viewed outside the claustrophobic confines of the US.

    “You also misinterpreted one of my statements in response to you. Racism and discrimination against alternative lifestyles are often seen as the same, when the two subjects are unique in and of themselves.”

    Oh no, quite the opposite! I fully agree with you and abhor both. The person we referred to exhibited a fair dose of both, that was my point.

    Freedom is a funny thing, mine stops where yours starts and vice versa. Race implies no freedom, no choice, a state into which one is born. We have no choice but to respect all, get comfortable with all.

    An alternative lifestyle is slightly different in that I do not need to be comfortable with it, just respect it. I may get to know it, maybe even like it, join it, but I do not have to.

    Turning these two 180 degrees around does not mean either of them can be considered immoral, unacceptable etc. That is what unites them.

    As to religion? You are totally right in your assessment of atheism as one of the many *isms. What then of agnostics? The truth is that the belief in any religion is permittable only insofar as it does not result in a feeling of superiority over others.

    Lets just say once and for all that what we call the Bible is a variable collection of writings by several authors in wildly differing times, rewritten and retranslated time and time again. Different religions, no different directions within religions vary as to what they consider to be part of that book we call Bible and what not. Even if we assume that the original collection was reasonably close to reality, it is lost forever in the mists of time.

    Other religions have comparable books, comparable in depth of understanding, epic stories, more or less heroic saviours.

    It is all a matter of choice – like choosing 1 Baskin Robbins flavor from the counter. Therefore it is not acceptable to “own” the truth, not for christians, muslims, jews, buddhists, anyone. There are many truths out there. What is objectionable too, is any attempt to blur the distinction between belief and science. The two are not mutually exclusive, but neither are they mutually inclusive either.

    Religion evolves slowly and by decree from religious leaders. Science tends to evolve in leaps and bounds, by a slightly more democratic process, from the bottom up. People float in the large empty spaceleft in the middle, some slighly more towards religion, some towards science.

  8. Thank you for continuing the discussion and not walking away. Let us continue, shall we?

    “The person we referred to exhibited a fair dose of both, that was my point.”

    When they stated that they were not comfortable with many of the different things and said that a lot of them were in contrast to their morals, is that them being a bigot, or is it a simple act of honesty? Allow me to elaborate.

    We all have morals. Everyone does. Now here’s the problem: they don’t match with each individual. While Ted Pike, an individual who has fought against hate crimes legislation says he is fighting for the first amendment, he also disagrees with gay/lesbian lifestyles. It is against his morals and beliefs. However, I disagree with the idea that living such a lifestyle is wrong. Note however, that I am also not saying it is right either. Then what am I saying?…..

    Simple: Either way, what someone else does is none of my business. As long as something is not thrust upon me, others can live as they please, say what is on their mind, and more.

    Now here is something else that will blow your mind. I feel that hate crimes legislation in the U.S. is very harmful. It will only give true bigots, those who attempt to force their views down the throats of others (the person you spoke of simply said they were not comfortable with many of these things…. the last time I checked, they did not try to “correct” the situation if you catch my drift) by actively saying that they were evil and attempting to eliminate what they have a problem with.

    You have some good points all around concerning religion and science. The problem lies in a person’s willingness to blindly go with science as their way of living life. An instructor for a course I took said it best: science is merely a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. By the way, they were teaching a science course, and they had an extensive background in biology.

    I am about to write a new post and explain why I wrote this post.

  9. I think that you are loosing focus on the Real Problem here. In fact I’m going to do a blog post on that problem so that you can debate it’s existence if you feel so compelled.

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